The Fandependent Controversy
I just want to take a moment, probably the only one I will take, to respond personally to my participation on the recent Film Courage show regarding Fandependent Films and its creator Ben Hicks.
If you didn’t catch this then probably you aren’t following indie filmmakers on Twitter or following Fandependent Films, so I will provide a brief back story. Filmmaker Ben Hicks has issued a few statements over the last few months profiling his views on the current state of independent film distribution and community. He is a contributor to the Workbookproject’s blog The New Breed and is considered to be a member of this up and coming group of filmmakers. He is trying to form a new venture called Fandependent Films that is attempting to provide a new online platform for the release of indie films as well as a communal type of filmmaking. An admirable goal.
Last week, he issued his manifesto outlining his intentions. This document caused quite the stir on their Facebook page with many filmmakers commenting on his proposal. If you haven’ t read it yet, please do before you listen to the broadcast. I was one of the commenters and had many problems with his proposal. As such, Film Courage’s David Branin and Karen Worden asked me to be the voice of counterpoint on their upcoming show with Ben. I agreed. So, up to speed.
Anyone who reads this blog, interacts with me on Twitter or Facebook, has met me in person or has sent me email communication knows that I am a big proponent of independent films and filmmakers. It is not my intention to crush the spirit of indie filmmakers who offer suggestions and ideas on how to create a new model for the way that indie films are discovered and seen. I did have major issues with the solution Ben proposed as did many other filmmakers I talked to and the comments I read. These need to be addressed and I still think that.
To suggest, as a few have, that I killed Fandependent Films by challenging Ben on his ideas and the holes in his plan is ludicrous and, if it is indeed dead as an idea, it wasn’t going to survive anyway. I have received overwhelming support for the issues I raised and a few criticisms. I stand by what I said. In any business world, ideas will be criticized and solutions will be challenged. It is my belief that you must listen to the criticisms and weigh their validity before you carry on with your plans. I hope Ben will take what I said to heart when finalizing his decision to proceed. Even before he starts his fundraising campaign.
There is an element of his plan that I think might work and it has to do with forming local screenings in communities all over the world. He suggests it by posse and only screenings for those in the posse will be organized, but let’s take this part out of it. Many communities already do this type of thing. I encourage all of you to support these organizations, join in their efforts, and, as filmmakers, I think you will find a new appreciation for what it takes to put on a screening event or film festival. Mostly, it is hours of unpaid work and lots of organizational skills to bring sometimes conflicting groups together to pull it all off. In the manifesto, Ben seems to shun the efforts of festivals to bring indie films to the forefront of an audience. I wonder if he has ever worked on the inside of a festival? Not volunteered at just the event itself, but been a part of all the decisions to organize it and put it together? I think he would understand better why festivals and filmmakers need each other and appreciate the way some things are decided instead of only seeing it from the filmmaker’s side.
This isn’t to suggest that festivals are blameless in how they are run. Often, smaller fests are run by people inexperienced in business and lacking necessary organization and negotiating skills to make them successful from both a business point of view and a filmmaker’s point of view. Some are just outright fraud preying on the inexperienced artist by taking submission fees and offering little in return. Sometimes, in big festivals, they are run by people who have giant egos, looking for personal recognition and feel they are almost doing charity work for the community to enlighten them and charity work for filmmakers in giving them a platform. These shouldn’t be the motivations to start a film event.
If you live in a small town and do not have such an organization, I call on you to form one. Start small, do not expect the local cinema to give you a venue (great if they did, but don’t count on it). Churches, multipurpose rooms in schools, libraries, convention halls, whatever place your town has for a community gathering. Gauge interest in your community by approaching the local theater troupe, symphony, dance school, other arts organizations that can provide you with feedback on your idea. The like- minded tend to congregate and support each other.
Then, reach out into the filmmaker community. Many, many filmmakers are more than eager to share their work with an audience. I am not even going to suggest payment for either the films or the screenings because transparency and taxes and LLC’s and nonprofit status all gets into complications. This is about connecting with an audience and encouraging them to support you as an artist; mentally, spiritually and financially. If you want to sell merch/DVDs or collect donations from those willing to give it, great. Support will come to you in some way if you are open to it and if you provide an exceptional example of your talent. Strive for exceptional!
I had other issues with his marketing method ideas which I think are born out of economy not quality work, but you will hear what I have to say in the broadcast. Just know that you get what you are willing to pay for! Competition in the film industry leaves no room for homogeneous work and I think it would be impossible for a poorly funded organization to run a group of marketers for hundreds of films all needing equal attention. Studios already do that, and even they outsource some help.
Ben, I wish you well in your filmmaking career and keep thinking through your ideas. I think you have some great ones, but they need a bit more construction before making them official.
You can join in on the conversation about this by following #fandependent on Twitter or accessing their Facebook page.
Tags: Ben Hicks, David Branin, Fandependent, Film Courage, independent film, Karen Worden













February 16th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
Sheri,
First off, I follow a lot of webinars/podcast/interview sessions, etc. and have to say I thought that was one of the best I have heard in a while, mostly because you (and Ben) were willing to debate and voice your opinions strongly.
It is far too common, especially in any creative field to worry about being nice and hold back for the sake of not hurting anyone’s feelings. It is my opinion that sharing any potential pitfalls of an idea will only make it stronger and definitely agree that if that one little interview ruined Fandependant (which I don’t think it did) then it wasn’t strong enough an idea in the first place.
This should happen at the writing stage, the editing, and certainly something as important as the marketing and distribution.
The idea behind Fandependent comes from the same place we (filmmakers) are all coming from – frustration with the current model and a search for new ways of doing things. Anything that can help that along should be welcomed, including a voice of reason saying that things like traditional marketing & PR, film festivals, advertising, etc. should not be forgotten or dismissed just because there are so many new toys to play with online.
I think any business, any idea that stays true to their goal will be fine as long they realize that the exact steps it takes to get there might change.
Again, great interview. There was mention of a part 2. Is that going to happen?
-Marty
February 16th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
Hi Marty, thanks so much for your comment. We have been asked back, not quite firm on the date though. Sometime in March I think. I don’t know, is there more to talk about from this? It was my understanding from what Ben said that he is still wanting to go into fundraising mode for this idea. I hope he rethinks that. There is no reason to rush things along and I had offered a short term solution for him and the filmmakers he was talking with to try out the Youreeeka.com solution on their site. He can get a channel (for free I think) and post up films that stream for pay. All transactions are handled through Youreeeka so it is pretty transparent and fans can also use their channel’s viewer on their own websites and blog pages as affiliates, get paid, and champion the films from Fandependent. This is a very low cost solution and still covers the fan WOM element that he is looking for. I hope he checks it out. Of course, as a filmmaker, you can also check out getting your own streaming channel for your films and do the same thing.
February 18th, 2010 at 1:27 am
Hi Sheri,
I don’t think you were harsh on “Filmcourage”
It is slightly arrogrant to make a Manifesto, however, if you are going to do that and publically go on a show with it, damm, I would have EVERY angle covered. And I would have my suit of armour on. I would EXPECT extreme crticicism.
Nobody is downing filmmakers with potential solutions. I keep saying we all have to try every angle, and then document and share the pos-neg. The more tried and tested case studies the better. But in my opinion, that was not a good plan for many reasons.
If Ben had came on the show to talk about a film, and threw around a few ideas he had, cool, but I think when you announce very dramatically you have a manifesto, jesus, have it covered!
Anyway, I personally dont beleive it for many reasons. Most you stated. The main reason I was inspired to write a blog about it was because of a coment like “I’m wondering if yesterday’s @filmcourage show has killed #fandependent
That really angered me, inspired me to write a blog to remind us all we need to get real. I think you do a great job, show was great, and filmcourage is a brilliant show of filmmaker case studies. So was kind of pissed at that post.
They think that was harsh, if you went in front of angel investors with a plan like that, they would rip it to pieces! We need brutal honestly for all our own sakes. Tough love honesty is different from mocking.
Especially when I see most filmmakers still not getting it with what we need to do to make a “careers” Films are easy to make, creating careers is another ball park.
Anyway, great show
David
February 18th, 2010 at 5:12 am
thank you David. You are certainly providing valuable information on your own site as well. Every filmmaker would benefit from having a look at your post about the show and your ideas on how to move a film career along if you are independent.